Vince Poscente - The Importance of Resilience and Clarity in Speaking

Vince Poscente has a long list of accomplishments to his name. In four short years, he went from recreational skier to Olympic athlete. He is an accomplished speaker and is one of only four people on the planet to be inducted into the USA and Canadian Speaker Halls of Fame. Furthermore, he is a New York Times bestselling author of seven books. Today, he uses his skills as an award winning business professional to teach people the importance of understanding resiliency, equipping teams with practical tools to handle crises. 

Key Takeaways

• If your primary reason for being a speaker is the attention, being a professional paid speaker may not be for you. Your main purpose should be having impact and influence. 
• Speakers are entrepreneurs. They see a need and fill it. 
• We are often motivated by discomfort. Fear is temporary but regret is forever.
• Do what your competition isn't willing to do. Provide value and opportunities will come.
• Vince asks himself: how will I serve with love? This will help you find what aligns with your values. 
• Hear about some challenges Charles and Vince faced while pivoting their speaking business in COVID-19 times. 

Memorable Quotes

• “A good idea won’t go away so pursue that.” - Vince Poscente
• “What you have to say is good enough for where you are right now.” - Charles Clark
• “If you’re saying the same thing that everyone else is saying, you’re not filling a need.” - Vince Poscente
• “I learned the lesson: if you don’t engage, you’re going to have regrets.” - Vince Poscente
• “Resilience without clarity is stubborn ignorance.” - Vince Poscente
• “You don’t have to be perfect to speak.” - Charles Clark

Episode Resources & Links

Vince Poscente

Website: https://www.vinceposcente.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinceposcente/

Facebook: @Vince.Poscente | Twitter: @vinceposcente

Charles Clark

Website: https://thecharlesclark.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesclarkusa/

Instagram + Facebook: @thecharlesclark

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Transcript

00:00:02 Charles Clark 

Welcome to the journey paid speaking gigs podcast. 

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It's time to rise and thrive. 

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Alright, let's welcome Vince to the show. 

00:00:38 Vince Poscente 

Ohh good to be. 

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With you. 

00:00:40 Charles Clark 

Yeah man so. 

00:00:41 Charles Clark 

Just let the Thrive Tribe know a little bit about who you are and how. How did you get on this journey of actually impacting people's lives? Going on the stage and getting paid to do what you love? 

00:00:53 Vince Poscente 

Well, it's I. 

00:00:54 Speaker 3 

Mean the first thing that came to. 

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Mind was like I was asked. 

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To moderate the Christmas play in kindergarten. 

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And I couldn't even read, so I wasn't following a script, so God only knows. 

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What that ended up sounding like? 

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But I remember being on stage with as the valedictorian. 

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For a high school. 

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And I wanted this speech to be something that. 

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Had impact that people would. 

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Go Oh my. 

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Gosh, this is such a a massive benefit to them and that they would be something that would really resonate. 

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And I did the best I could, but at the end I got a a 2600 person standing ovation. I went wait a minute. There's something here. There's something that. 

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About this I call them soul. 

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Taps right, you get a soul tap. 

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You must know what I'm talking about, right? 

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I mean, you're you're following this passion. 

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For your tribe. 

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And and including everybody on this journey to say if if you got that soul tap, if you got that, which really means just pay. 

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Mentioned and that standing ovation back in high school. 

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Led to I'll skip ahead as a. You know I at 26 I started ski racing and at 30 I was in the Olympic Games and I was starting to. 

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Think wait, if I. 

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Win the gold medal in the Olympic Games. 

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I could be a. 

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Speaker right. 

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And another soul tap. 

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Jeez, I'm going all over. 

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The place, but I was I was. 

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That's 14 years old and I saw. 

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Premier of our province, Peter Laheeb. 

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I'm from Canada, Alberta. 

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And he gave a speech. 

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To 5000 people, and it was moving and it was impactful and full of influence. 

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And I just went. 

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That's it. 

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I want to be a politician, but it was in the Olympics that. 

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I thought wait? 

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My exit strategy could be win the gold medal be a speaker. 

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Well, I didn't win in the. 

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Olympic Games 

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But the fact is Charles a good idea won't go away, and so. 

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And and I will say this as well if someone is driven by getting the attention or being the focus of attention. 

00:03:05 Vince Poscente 

That is, a misdirected soul tab. 

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That's a, that's the like. 

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If you need attention. 

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Don't know if being a professional paid speaker is the best Ave. 

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for you, because really, our. 

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Job is to have impact and influence and if you can do both those things. 

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If you can have impact. 

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Act and you can have influence. 

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Then we're like the the Boy Scouts say we're leaving the the campsite better than. 

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We found it so. 

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That that 18 months after the Olympic Games Group had their speaker canceled, I was asked to give a speech to, I guess, about 90 people. 

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Four people came up after. 

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Individually, separately and said you got to do this. 

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You know you got to do this for a living, right? 

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So a good idea won't go away, and other people can see that. 

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Good idea sometimes when you. 

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Go no, no no. 

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You know, I kept thinking. 

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Well, I didn't win. 

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The gold medal, right? Well. 

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In the Hall of Fame for speakers in Canada and the Hall of Fame and Speakers in the United States with the likes of Zig Ziglar and Augment Edino, and Jim Rohn and. 

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Even Ronald Reagan, I mean. 

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The great communicator, so you know. 

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A good idea won't go away, so pursue that. 

00:04:25 Charles Clark 

I I think it's so so fascinating. 

00:04:27 Charles Clark 

I think we have similar stories of thinking that we need certain things in order to be validated, right? 

00:04:33 Charles Clark 

In order to feel like I got something to say now because I did this, I think most a lot of people need to understand that what you have to say is good enough for where you are right now. 

00:04:46 Speaker 3 

Right, yeah I yeah. 

00:04:48 Speaker 3 

And I I think. 

00:04:49 Vince Poscente 

It's we are no different speakers than we are entrepreneurs and an entrepreneur sees a need, right? 

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And says wait? 

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I can fulfill that need. 

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This is something that is out there that is not being fulfilled. 

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Now, if you're giving speeches, not saying you Charles, but any of our tribe, anybody that has this, this this idea that they want to be paid to speak? 

00:05:16 Vince Poscente 

If you're saying the same thing that everybody else is saying, you're not feeling a need. 

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You might be feeling. 

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Your own need. 

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But to to really need or. 

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There are ways to. 

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To talk about something like, let's say you have a A. 

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You know your past is one of persistence, right? 

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You you know never give up. 

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Well, if you said hey guys in your. 

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Speech never give. 

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Up then everybody's going to go. 

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All right, Sherlock, I think. 

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I got that one, you know. 

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If you said something like. 

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Like the first thing you gotta do is give up the first thing you have to do is step back, give up, step back and assess the situation. 

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You cannot persist without first giving up. 

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Then there are they're going to. 

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Go ohh I hadn't thought of it that. 

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Way yeah you. 

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Know, so that's saying there's nothing new under the sun. 

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But you can phrase things. 

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And frame it in a way that has people activate their imagination and that they are influenced and they are impacted in a way that it enriches their lives and they take action. 

00:06:26 Charles Clark 

In the think differently, what was what was the thing that that person said to you that club Scout Boy Scout? 

00:06:33 Charles Clark 

Or was was it something that they said that allowed you to say yo like this is? 

00:06:40 Charles Clark 

This is definitely something that I'm gifted in. 

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This is definitely something I need to continue to pursue. 

00:06:46 Vince Poscente 

Yeah yeah this let me go back to. 

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When I was 26 years old. 

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To answer that question, yeah I mean. 

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I'd never ski race before, right? 

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I had raced in luge for a couple of years, but quit. 

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We are often motivated by discomfort and you know, fear is temporary. 

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Regrets last for. 

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Ever so this sting of regret of not stepping in and not engaging in the sport of luge, was a regret that I had. 

00:07:19 Vince Poscente 

So I stepped in with speed skiing and then ended up being in the Olympics, and so I'd already learned kind of the lesson. 

00:07:26 Vince Poscente 

Wait, if you don't engage, you're going to have regrets and I. 

00:07:30 Speaker 3 

He hated that feeling. 

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Like regrets are just like yeah, you know so. 

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I never want regrets. 

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Again, and so that was. 

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Part of it like I. 

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Didn't win the gold medal. 

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The phone wasn't. 

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Ringing off the hook. 

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Hey, could you tell us? 

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How you lost in the Olympic Games? 

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Yeah yeah no. 

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I find it. 

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I framed it differently. 

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You know, I I I put it in a very innovative package. 

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Plus, I looked at the industry. 

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It's very, very competitive. 

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And one of the things that worked really well is a philosophy. 

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Because we all run around trying to do what the competition is not doing. 

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Saying things where the others aren't saying being unique and how we present. 

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But the mindset that I find in a competitive landscape that works really well. 

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Is to do what the competition is not willing to do right. 

00:08:20 Vince Poscente 

So and when I was ski racing I realized my competition wasn't local, although I was racing in local. 

00:08:27 Vince Poscente 

Places and it wasn't national. 

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Although in order to compete for the Canadian Olympic team, you had to be on the national team. 

00:08:34 Vince Poscente 

I never thought as my competition is national. 

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I never thought of them as international at the time I knew the Olympic qualifying standards were top 16 in the world. 

00:08:43 Vince Poscente 

So the idea here was to identify who your the top performers, the highest performers are, and do what they're not willing to do. 

00:08:52 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, so the top 16 races in the world I had to do what they're not willing to do. 

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They had a 20 year head start. 

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So how do you do what they're not doing? 

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You can't. 

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But you can do what the competition is not willing to do, and that was a distinct advantage as well so. 

00:09:10 Vince Poscente 

Was there any one person? 

00:09:12 Vince Poscente 

No, no, it was just it was maybe that voice inside the head would say it. 

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You know if this isn't possible you you didn't win the gold though you don't. 

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You know you. 

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Don't. You're 30 some yet. 

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Five years old. When I started speaking, you know 3034 I guess. 

00:09:27 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, speaking professionally, I mean and professionally I mean getting a chicken dinner. 

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You know maybe. 

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$500.00 here. 

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There you know it was. 

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Anytime, anywhere, any price was the philosophy at the beginning. 

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It's just anytime, anywhere, any price and you can start. 

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You get better, and there's no better example than stand up comedians, right? 

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They can write material all day long, but they don't get better unless they're in front of people, right? 

00:09:55 Vince Poscente 

So same with speaking. 

00:09:55 Charles Clark 

Yeah, I I say yeah I say the more you speak the the more you get paid. 

00:10:01 Charles Clark 

Even if you're doing it for. 

00:10:03 Charles Clark 

Because you're you're. 

00:10:04 Charles Clark 

You're polishing yourself not to agree to like, be perfect. 

00:10:10 Charles Clark 

I'm getting a little feedback, but that's. 

00:10:11 Charles Clark 

OK. 

00:10:13 Charles Clark 

Let me see here, you got headphones. 

00:10:15 Charles Clark 

Maybe we can try that. 

00:10:18 Vince Poscente 

Do I have headphones? 

00:10:19 

Yeah, I'm. 

00:10:19 Charles Clark 

Getting a little feedback. 

00:10:20 Vince Poscente 

I don't know, not really. 

00:10:24 Vince Poscente 

I wonder how I could beat headphones for you. 

00:10:35 Charles Clark 

Sorry about that. 

00:10:36 Vince Poscente 

You're getting feedback from me, my end. 

00:10:38 Charles Clark 

Uh, so typically that's how it happens. 

00:10:42 Charles Clark 

Like sometimes it works really well when the other person doesn't have their headphones. 

00:10:57 Vince Poscente 

Let's see if these work. 

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Chick chick, I haven't charged these for a while. 

00:11:03 Vince Poscente 

OK. 

00:11:06 Charles Clark 

Can you hear me here? 

00:11:08 Charles Clark 

Check check. 

00:11:15 Vince Poscente 

OK, check mic check check check. 

00:11:18 Charles Clark 

Yeah, it solved it. 

00:11:20 Charles Clark 

Can you hear me? 

00:11:22 Charles Clark 

Yeah, can you hear me? 

00:11:22 

OK. 

00:11:23 Charles Clark 

Yeah yeah, yeah. 

00:11:25 Charles Clark 

So where was I was OK, so I was saying it's OK. 

00:11:28 Charles Clark 

We're going to clean it up, see. 

00:11:32 Charles Clark 

Yeah, so I definitely agree with you. 

00:11:34 Charles Clark 

You know it's, I believe that the more you speak, the more you get paid, right? 

00:11:38 Charles Clark 

Meaning, like the more you do it, the better you get you. 

00:11:41 Charles Clark 

You get, you get polished. 

00:11:42 Charles Clark 

You get to work on different parts of your speaking that you might not be well in. 

00:11:47 Charles Clark 

So I I definitely agree with you with that. 

00:11:51 Charles Clark 

Let's let's kind of like talk about, you know COVID, what are you talking about, damn. 

00:11:57 Vince Poscente 

Right, so I believe like. 

00:12:00 Charles Clark 

So much happened right during last year, 365 days. 

00:12:06 Charles Clark 

Go and yeah, maybe a little bit even more, but I think the speaking industry was completely changed. 

00:12:12 Charles Clark 

The face of how we do business. 

00:12:14 Charles Clark 

What was going through your mind when all of that happened? 

00:12:19 Vince Poscente 

Well, I've been through a few downturns in the economy and my speaking business has been directly impacted and COVID annihilated. 95% of my calendar. I mean, that was how I made my living and then I didn't. And so but. 

00:12:39 Vince Poscente 

How I reacted this time was not to panic and I immediately started pushing out value. 

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I mean, I've written seven books, so I've got material. 

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I've got content. 

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I started pushing out these breakthrough videos. 

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In fact for the first. 

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I don't know few months. 

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I call them COVID campers. 

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I'd say hey COVID campers and there were always less than two minutes. 

00:13:05 Vince Poscente 

We talked about what was a thing. 

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They could work on. 

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You know cognitive bias, repetition bias, blind spot bias. 

00:13:14 Vince Poscente 

Things that would be informative have impact and influence, and I thought that pandemic would probably last about three weeks, so I had decided to put out a video every day for those three weeks and then five weeks and then eight weeks. And then that's the you know, 250 videos later. 

00:13:35 Vince Poscente 

I eventually changed it from COVID campers because after the lock in if you will in the US was less of a thing the. 

00:13:44 Vince Poscente 

I call them breakthrough videos and so pushing out value is the answer. 

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To your question, I. 

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Immediately started giving value anytime, anywhere, any price. 

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Just give value. 

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If you're good at something. 

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If you have a message then give value and somebody steps up somebody. 

00:14:03 Vince Poscente 

Says hey could. 

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You do this over here. 

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Could you help us with? 

00:14:06 Vince Poscente 

Our company and that. 

00:14:07 Vince Poscente 

Just is how that's how it works. 

00:14:10 Charles Clark 

I I'm I'm kind of questioned with this the idea. 

00:14:13 Charles Clark 

Do you think? 

00:14:15 Charles Clark 

That how we handle COVID should have been how we handled our business all along. 

00:14:22 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, yeah, we we. 

00:14:26 Vince Poscente 

We don't change until we're uncomfortable, right? 

00:14:30 Vince Poscente 

And so we definitely had. 

00:14:34 Vince Poscente 

Had to change, yeah, and you know there's one thing. 

00:14:38 Vince Poscente 

That I've been putting off and putting off. 

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And putting off and I created this program this learning distance distance learning program called find your buzz right. 

00:14:48 Vince Poscente 

That book you see over my shoulder it wait, this shoulder here is to be able to. 

00:14:52 Charles Clark 

Yeah, yeah. 

00:14:53 Vince Poscente 

Why am I? 

00:14:54 Vince Poscente 

I'm able to point in the right direction, but that's what. 

00:14:57 Vince Poscente 

Called the Ant and the elephant. 

00:15:00 Vince Poscente 

And the the Ant. 

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The elephants. 

00:15:02 Vince Poscente 

LeBron James has quoted it in Sports Illustrated. 

00:15:05 Vince Poscente 

It's been used by FedEx. 

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It's a leadership tool and I deconstructed the I had the time. 

00:15:13 Vince Poscente 

You know I deconstructed the book, turned it into a learning platform and did these virtual learn lunch and learns and the people have been taking this. 

00:15:22 Vince Poscente 

Find your buzz program as their heads are blowing up because they're just kind of. 

00:15:26 Vince Poscente 

This is awesome like it's. 

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Instead of an educational. 

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Transaction which this could be, you know, our interview and your tribe might be going OK. 

00:15:35 Vince Poscente 

I get it or whatever. 

00:15:36 Vince Poscente 

But when something is transformational, then somebody is fundamentally shifted and then you no longer get the credit, by the way, because they forget why they why they transformed or how it's just now who they are or what they've. 

00:15:53 Vince Poscente 

And that's why we're on this planet. 

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If we're going to. 

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Have impact and influence. 

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Seek that transformational experience for your audience member and then then you're in that sweet spot. 

00:16:05 Vince Poscente 

So that's that. 

00:16:06 Vince Poscente 

Answer your question that that was one thing that I stepped into. 

00:16:10 Vince Poscente 

Giving virtual keynotes. 

00:16:12 Vince Poscente 

I'm good at it and I don't want to do them forever. 

00:16:17 Charles Clark 

I'll tell you on that. 

00:16:19 Vince Poscente 

Boy Oh my God, it's it's. 

00:16:21 Vince Poscente 

I don't, you know, I could go on about how much I don't like. 

00:16:24 Vince Poscente 

It but. 

00:16:25 Charles Clark 

Yeah, it's it's. 

00:16:26 Charles Clark 

It's just like a season of it, right? 

00:16:28 Charles Clark 

It's like, yo, I I definitely. 

00:16:30 Charles Clark 

I prefer to be on the stage and in in front of people impacting their lives, like feeling that energy in the room. 

00:16:36 Charles Clark 

There's nothing like that, you know, but I guess this will do for now. 

00:16:42 Charles Clark 

Yeah yeah, yeah. 

00:16:43 Vince Poscente 

It sharpens your sharpens your skills, though, doesn't it? 

00:16:46 Charles Clark 

Definitely like the ability to. 

00:16:50 Charles Clark 

To be authentic when when there's no feedback. 

00:16:54 Vince Poscente 

Right, right, yeah? 

00:16:54 Charles Clark 

You know? 

00:16:56 Charles Clark 

That that has been the the challenge like and you know for me especially starting out during COVID like yo. 

00:17:02 Charles Clark 

How do I? 

00:17:03 Charles Clark 

Like feel the energy and and still give my best and and now it taught me to be the end. 

00:17:08 Vince Poscente 

Right? 

00:17:13 Charles Clark 

Before someone gives it to me, right? 

00:17:15 Charles Clark 

Yeah, and so like that's that's just been the the way I process it. 

00:17:19 Charles Clark 

But I definitely can't wait it, it's it's gonna be like a Super Bowl. 

00:17:23 Charles Clark 

You know when? 

00:17:24 Charles Clark 

When I when I get back into the the the. 

00:17:26 Charles Clark 

Where you know the auditorium conference is my I think my. 

00:17:32 Charles Clark 

The biggest one I have coming up is going to be in October, and that's going to be, I think, about 10:10 thousand people or so. 

00:17:39 Charles Clark 

And I'm like yo I can't wait for this moment right here, so what's the one speaker that you you respect and? 

00:17:50 Charles Clark 

One question that you would ask him or her. 

00:17:56 Vince Poscente 

You know I can't remember his name, but he wrote a book called Carpe Diem. 

00:18:01 Vince Poscente 

He was a pastor out of Philadelphia. 

00:18:05 Vince Poscente 

Oh, what's his name? 

00:18:06 Vince Poscente 

You might want to look it up, but he said something on stage that I'd like to explore more and he said we all want our kids to be what and everybody goes happy and he says, yeah, you could take a pill and be happy. 

00:18:24 Vince Poscente 

It's more than being happy. 

00:18:26 Vince Poscente 

It's about being fulfilled. 

00:18:28 Vince Poscente 

And Anthony, his name is Anthony something shoot. 

00:18:33 Vince Poscente 

Anyway, I'm not picking anybody famous. 

00:18:36 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, I've been around some of the most prominent speakers and have had some negative experiences. 

00:18:44 Speaker 3 

Right? 

00:18:44 Vince Poscente 

It was really, truly. 

00:18:46 Vince Poscente 

I won't say his or her name. 

00:18:49 Vince Poscente 

But, uh, I will say this that I was on a speaking tour with this person and they couldn't be more ego driven and. 

00:18:59 Vince Poscente 

And and rude, I mean, yeah. 

00:19:01 Vince Poscente 

I was with an icon. 

00:19:03 Vince Poscente 

I was, you know, hoping that at some point we could chat. 

00:19:08 Vince Poscente 

And this this person was treating me like a pimple on his ***. 

00:19:12 Vince Poscente 

I mean it. 

00:19:13 Speaker 3 

Was like got. 

00:19:14 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, I mean that was like that's graphic isn't. 

00:19:17 Vince Poscente 

It, but anyway, yeah, I know I. 

00:19:20 Charles Clark 

It was a. 

00:19:21 Charles Clark 

Was ready to pop like type of? 

00:19:24 Vince Poscente 

Let's go into detail no. 

00:19:28 Vince Poscente 

Now you know and and that those kind of experiences are gifts, aren't they? 

00:19:32 Vince Poscente 

You know you go ohh note to self. 

00:19:34 Vince Poscente 

I never want to do that. 

00:19:36 Vince Poscente 

I never want to be that way so we can learn from anybody when even when they're not teaching mode, right, right? 

00:19:42 Charles Clark 

Right, right? 

00:19:43 Charles Clark 

I think that was that's a big thing for my life. 

00:19:46 Charles Clark 

I I learned. 

00:19:48 Charles Clark 

From the mistakes of other people. 

00:19:51 Charles Clark 

And that was the thing that allowed me to see what I wanted to be in life. 

00:19:57 Charles Clark 

You know those things that they did wrong? 

00:20:00 Charles Clark 

I wanted to do the. 

00:20:01 Charles Clark 

Opposite of that. 

00:20:03 Charles Clark 

And so, yeah, I can definitely relate to that. 

00:20:06 Charles Clark 

I think we can turn. 

00:20:07 Charles Clark 

You know we can turn any tragedy to something of of of a magnificent design. 

00:20:14 Charles Clark 

It's all about perspective. 

00:20:15 Charles Clark 

You know, as we know, with resilience and and being able to be strong, right? 

00:20:20 Charles Clark 

It's it's learning to turn that situation into something that can. 

00:20:25 Charles Clark 

Completely change your life so I just. 

00:20:29 Vince Poscente 

Let me add one thing on the topic. 

00:20:31 Vince Poscente 

Of resilience because. 

00:20:32 Vince Poscente 

I've been thinking about that. 

00:20:33 Vince Poscente 

Actually, it's almost a trigger word in a way for me, because resilience without clarity is. 

00:20:41 Vince Poscente 

Stubborn ignorance yeah. 

00:20:43 Vince Poscente 

Meaning you can just you can be resilient, persistent and just drive and and and go forward. 

00:20:51 Vince Poscente 

But clarity is such an essential part of why you're resilient, and then it's beyond the why. 

00:21:00 Vince Poscente 

It's this connection. 

00:21:02 Vince Poscente 

This emotional buzz that you get from this kind of. 

00:21:06 Vince Poscente 

Of Path of resilience. 

00:21:09 Vince Poscente 

So I just wanted to add that because whether it's negative or positive like you. 

00:21:15 Vince Poscente 

Dead, it still adds to the clarity and then this resilience is just bulletproof, right? 

00:21:22 Vince Poscente 

You you you. 

00:21:22 Vince Poscente 

Just if you're so clear on what it is that you are meant to be on this planet, right? 

00:21:29 Vince Poscente 

If you're so, and if you don't have that of course, stay on the line because there's a ton of us. 

00:21:34 Vince Poscente 

That still don't know what. 

00:21:35 Speaker 3 

Exactly what to do but. 

00:21:38 Vince Poscente 

You know this. 

00:21:38 Vince Poscente 

This clarity is pulling things into focus. 

00:21:42 Vince Poscente 

Before we started this record. 

00:21:44 Vince Poscente 

Like we were working on clarity because it just wasn't quite there on the screen and so we we tweaked it, didn't we? 

00:21:51 Vince Poscente 

You tweak it, tweak it, and then we're like, OK, we got clarity now. 

00:21:54 Vince Poscente 

Same in life, same. 

00:21:57 Charles Clark 

So true, so true. 

00:21:58 Charles Clark 

I think just to add one more. 

00:22:00 Charles Clark 

Thing to it. 

00:22:01 Charles Clark 

Is yeah I. 

00:22:02 Charles Clark 

I think that the thing that I've been learning about being resilient or perseverance is that. 

00:22:11 Charles Clark 

Perseverance isn't about pushing like just automatically. 

00:22:15 Charles Clark 

I'm just gonna push through this thing. 

00:22:17 Charles Clark 

But it's about being meticulous, right? 

00:22:19 Charles Clark 

It's about being able to reflect and connect. 

00:22:24 Charles Clark 

And let me just put this in perspective for you guys, that's listening. 

00:22:28 Charles Clark 

You know that you're called to speak. 

00:22:30 Charles Clark 

You know that there's something that you that you want to. 

00:22:32 Charles Clark 

Do and if you've been getting it wrong, maybe you've been sending out those emails wrong, or you trying to figure out the the right way to do things the way the best way that you can do that is reflect and connect. 

00:22:44 Charles Clark 

Figure out what's not working right, and if you don't know all the answers the the best thing that I would say is the next step is to be amongst a tribe, right when when you know. 

00:22:56 Charles Clark 

When you understand what it takes. 

00:22:59 Charles Clark 

Then I think when you get around a tribe you understand what it takes, right? 

00:23:02 Charles Clark 

It's just like when you're in Olympics, right? 

00:23:04 Charles Clark 

Like I I just, I just can't be great by myself. 

00:23:07 Charles Clark 

It takes a tribe of people to get there so you know. 

00:23:11 Charles Clark 

And all of this perseverance is, and all is about doing it by yourself and just trying to be strong on on your own. 

00:23:18 Charles Clark 

But sometimes it's about reflecting and connecting. 

00:23:20 Charles Clark 

And being a part of a community, that's going to help you get there. 

00:23:24 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, and Charles I'll, I'll add one other word to that. 

00:23:28 Vince Poscente 

And that's authenticity. 

00:23:30 Vince Poscente 

You brought that up earlier. 

00:23:33 Vince Poscente 

My wife used to own International Speakers Bureau right? 

00:23:37 Vince Poscente 

They were top five speaker bureaus in the US if not. 

00:23:41 Vince Poscente 

The world and. 

00:23:43 Vince Poscente 

And somebody asked her what's your job and she said my job is to find out who's authentic. 

00:23:51 Vince Poscente 

And that just. 

00:23:52 Vince Poscente 

Came out of her mouth right and. 

00:23:54 Vince Poscente 

I went that's it. 

00:23:55 Vince Poscente 

Because you know, they call it a poop detector where your your poop detector goes off when somebody's not being authentic. And I'm saying being authentic not doing authentic because there's a. 

00:24:07 Vince Poscente 

Ton of people doing. 

00:24:10 Vince Poscente 

Listening and you just kind of go. 

00:24:12 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, that detector. 

00:24:13 Vince Poscente 

Just goes deep deep. 

00:24:14 Vince Poscente 

Deep, you know. 

00:24:16 Vince Poscente 

So so for reflecting connect and authenticity might be that magical foundation for being able to truly pursue that resilience that we were talking about and and stand the course. 

00:24:30 Vince Poscente 

You've got this. 

00:24:31 Vince Poscente 

Message inside you'll, it'll become clear. 

00:24:34 Charles Clark 

Yeah, that's real. 

00:24:36 Charles Clark 

I want people who are authentic. 

00:24:38 Charles Clark 

I'm trying to separate the people who are then. 

00:24:39 Charles Clark 

I think that's what we all. 

00:24:40 Charles Clark 

Right connection, that's the. 

00:24:43 Charles Clark 

That's the thing that builds the connection to drive that conversation and to create transformation like all those. 

00:24:50 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, there's a. 

00:24:52 Vince Poscente 

There's a fella he is a longtime friend of mine. 

00:24:55 Vince Poscente 

His name is. 

00:24:56 Vince Poscente 

Egan and Egan wanted to. 

00:24:58 Vince Poscente 

Be paid to speak more and wanted to. 

00:25:00 Vince Poscente 

Get more busy. 

00:25:01 Vince Poscente 

This and he came to me and says, how do? 

00:25:03 Vince Poscente 

I be funny and I and I went Eagan. 

00:25:07 Vince Poscente 

You're an accountant. 

00:25:08 Vince Poscente 

You're not funny like. 

00:25:11 Vince Poscente 

But you are passionate and when he he wanted to do authenticity with humor, right? 

00:25:17 Vince Poscente 

And but when he talked about compound interest like his eyes. 

00:25:22 Vince Poscente 

Roll in the back of his. 

00:25:23 Vince Poscente 

Head he would start spitting and. 

00:25:26 Speaker 3 

To go compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world, and you have any idea how fast? 

00:25:34 Vince Poscente 

And they said it's that passion. 

00:25:37 Charles Clark 

Yeah, that. 

00:25:37 Vince Poscente 

Is his authenticity not trying to do anything specific so his authenticity needed to come forward rather which was his passion for what he was passionate. 

00:25:48 Vince Poscente 

About you know. 

00:25:48 Vince Poscente 

So that's that's a. 

00:25:50 Vince Poscente 

That's a pretty simple formula, yeah? 

00:25:54 Charles Clark 

Be you, be you at the end of the day, one more question. 

00:25:57 Charles Clark 

I wanted to ask you before we end this conversation is, you know, as speakers we're giving this platform to impact people's lives. 

00:26:04 Charles Clark 

How are you modeling your words in private? 

00:26:08 Vince Poscente 

Ohh yeah, that's called integrity and. 

00:26:11 Charles Clark 

Yeah yeah, yeah. 

00:26:13 Vince Poscente 

I have a I. 

00:26:14 Vince Poscente 

Have a saying, winning is the journey is a journey of integrity. 

00:26:19 Vince Poscente 

If you break that that quote down. 

00:26:23 Vince Poscente 

You're not winning if you're not an integrity and journey means it's a process like you're constantly in this process of doing, being, you know, living, executing, delivering, serving, and so. 

00:26:41 Vince Poscente 

You know that's easy for me, I mean. 

00:26:44 Vince Poscente 

My message is about having impact and influence while having as much fun as humanly possible, right? 

00:26:53 Vince Poscente 

And I and I summarize that with a very simple question. 

00:26:56 Vince Poscente 

I and I call it living in my question, which is how will I serve with love, right? 

00:27:03 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, it's not just others, it's myself. 

00:27:05 Vince Poscente 

I mean can. 

00:27:06 Vince Poscente 

How will I serve with love? 

00:27:08 Vince Poscente 

Well, is there ever an answer to that? 

00:27:10 Vince Poscente 

No, but there's always the process of that, you know. 

00:27:13 Vince Poscente 

So when you reached out and said. 

00:27:16 Vince Poscente 

Would you help our tribe and would you help us understand, paid to speak and? 

00:27:20 Vince Poscente 

All that you know. 

00:27:22 Vince Poscente 

Does that fit with? 

00:27:23 Vince Poscente 

How will I serve with love or is that misaligned with that and it was aligned so? 

00:27:27 Vince Poscente 

I said yes, I mean. 

00:27:29 Vince Poscente 

We didn't meet until just earlier. 

00:27:33 Vince Poscente 

And so that's fine I. 

00:27:35 Vince Poscente 

Mean am I in integrity? 

00:27:37 Vince Poscente 

With that mission and the the answer is yes so. 

00:27:42 Vince Poscente 

That's just easy. 

00:27:43 Vince Poscente 

And when I'm off stage. 

00:27:45 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, we hear stories about people that. 

00:27:47 Vince Poscente 

Are even kind of referred to one. 

00:27:49 Vince Poscente 

But you know, there's there's these moments where we can kind of find ourselves a little out of out of alignment. 

00:27:50 

Yeah, yeah. 

00:27:56 Vince Poscente 

And then I've made mistakes. 

00:27:58 Vince Poscente 

One guy came up to me prior to his. 

00:28:02 Vince Poscente 

It was minutes before and he's he just wanted to make conversation. 

00:28:05 Vince Poscente 

He was just trying to be nice and he said So what are you going to speak on? 

00:28:08 Vince Poscente 

And I went wow if you could. 

00:28:10 Vince Poscente 

Wait like 10 minutes. 

00:28:11 Vince Poscente 

You're going to hear it right? 

00:28:13 Vince Poscente 

And and he was so offended. 

00:28:16 

Right and he just. 

00:28:17 Vince Poscente 

Went well, never mind and he just walked away and I went. 

00:28:22 Vince Poscente 

I was such an ******* right? 

00:28:24 Vince Poscente 

I didn't mean to. 

00:28:26 Vince Poscente 

Canadian human yeah well. 

00:28:29 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, so I learned my lesson. 

00:28:34 Charles Clark 

That's all good I. 

00:28:35 Charles Clark 

Think we all we all make mistakes right? 

00:28:37 Charles Clark 

Like that's. 

00:28:39 Charles Clark 

The human part of us. 

00:28:41 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, yeah. 

00:28:42 

Like we we. 

00:28:43 Charles Clark 

Are all flawed and and even in our relationships we're going to mess. 

00:28:46 Charles Clark 

Up and. 

00:28:49 Charles Clark 

That that's The thing is, as long as we're. 

00:28:54 Charles Clark 

As long as we're pushing to get better, as long as you become a just an ounce more of who you're created to be or pushing to be to have that clarity. 

00:28:56 Vince Poscente 

All right? 

00:29:02 Charles Clark 

As you said to to be that person then. 

00:29:07 Charles Clark 

Forget the rest. 

00:29:08 Charles Clark 

Love, love that journey and and forgive yourself. 

00:29:12 Charles Clark 

Give yourself Grace and I think that's the thing that I've been trying to walk in is. 

00:29:18 Charles Clark 

I'm not perfect and even though I'm on this platform, even though I get paid to speak, it's. 

00:29:23 Charles Clark 

Give yourself grace. 

00:29:25 Charles Clark 

Understand you're not perfect and just continue to try to be the best version of yourself. 

00:29:31 Charles Clark 

If that doesn't help anybody like you guys understanding like you don't have. 

00:29:35 Charles Clark 

To be perfect, to speak. 

00:29:36 Charles Clark 

There it is right there you don't. 

00:29:38 Vince Poscente 

Yeah, yeah no, the. 

00:29:40 Vince Poscente 

More authentic you are, the more you're going to be vulnerable, the more you're going to mess up. 

00:29:43 Vince Poscente 

Every once in a while. 

00:29:45 

And if. 

00:29:45 Vince Poscente 

You messed up. 

00:29:46 Vince Poscente 

You kind of go. 

00:29:46 Vince Poscente 

Oh wait, wait. 

00:29:48 Vince Poscente 

I said that completely wrong and people go, you know? 

00:29:52 Vince Poscente 

And then you said what I meant to say, and then they won't. 

00:29:55 Vince Poscente 

Let up because they kind of like they. 

00:29:57 Vince Poscente 

Love seeing you squirm. 

00:29:57 Charles Clark 

Connect to that. 

00:29:58 Vince Poscente 

But yeah, they connect with authenticity. 

00:30:01 Vince Poscente 

Of course they do. 

00:30:02 Charles Clark 

So true means before we go. 

00:30:03 Charles Clark 

What can I try find you? 

00:30:06 Vince Poscente 

Vincepacenti.com, we'll get you there. I think if you've seen this video, my name should be somewhere on this so the spelling of the last name is of possenti is POSCENTE. You reach out to me. I've got some books. I've got some learning tools I've got to. 

00:30:25 Vince Poscente 

Most of it's. 

00:30:26 Vince Poscente 

Free and I just want to serve with love so hopefully that was something we accomplished in this interview. 

00:30:36 Charles Clark 

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00:30:38 Charles Clark 

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00:30:41 Charles Clark 

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00:30:48 Charles Clark 

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00:30:55 Charles Clark 

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00:31:00 Charles Clark 

Guys on the. 

00:31:00 Charles Clark 

Next episode, peace.