David Harrell - Harnessing Limitations and Speaking About Disability Advocacy

David Harrell is an actor, speaker, and disability advocate. He has created and produced several solo plays. Using this material, he began cultivating a keynote and transitioning into the world of speaking. As he entered adulthood, he started becoming more aware of his disability and the larger disability community and is now focused on advocacy in arts and entertainment.

Key Takeaways 

• We are all going to face limitations or challenges at some point in our lives. As an emerging speaker, these moments of resilience and growth can serve as very powerful stories. 
• Just simply showing people they are not alone can send a very strong message. 
• Learn about how David has found success in his speaking niche. 
• Knowing your audience and adapting your speeches accordingly are incredibly important skills. 
• Striking a balance between staying on-script and off-script can be difficult but very useful.
• Learn about which speaker's brain David would like to pick. 

Memorable Quotes

• "I think it is a universal truth that we're all going to face challenges and difficult circumstances...limitations are always going to come up. Those limitations could be placed on us by others, and sometimes these limitations are going to be placed on ourselves...Those limitations don't have to peel away our humanity in any way." - David Harrell
• "By us sharing our experiences, it lets the world know, let the people in your community know that they're not alone." - Charles Clark
• "[Transcending] from that place of...head knowledge to heart knowledge [allows us] to create some synergy in the room." - Charles Clark

Episode Resources & Links

David Harrell

Website: https://davidharrellspeaks.com

Instagram: davidharrell3 | Twitter: @david_harrell

Facebook: davidharrellactorspeaker

Charles Clark

Website: https://thecharlesclark.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesclarkusa/

Instagram + Facebook: @thecharlesclark

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Transcript

00:00:02 Charles Clark

Welcome to the journey paid speaking gigs podcast.

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Here we bring on guests in the speaking world to uncover how to find your voice as a speaker, get paid speaking engagements and develop your speaking skills.

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I'm your host Charles Clarke mental health and resilient speaker and today I'm having a conversation with motivational speaker David Harrell.

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If you like what you hear today, check out the journey to paid speaking gigs Academy on my website, dutchcharlesclark.com/apply where you're going to learn everything that you need to know about how to create a successful speaking business. It's time to rise and thrive. Let's welcome David to the show.

00:00:38 David Harrell

So much for having me.

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I really appreciate it.

00:00:40 Charles Clark

Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

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Let's let's kick this off the right way.

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Let me throw out Rhino, who is David Herold?

00:00:48 David Harrell

Uh, cool man I.

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I think the best way I still identify myself as an as an actor, speaker and disability advocate I think.

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For most of.

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My life I've been an actor and performer.

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I created some solo plays that I toured around and then I.

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Sort of used.

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A lot of that resource.

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Material to begin to cultivate the keynote and started trying to do more keynote speaking as well.

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I was born without my right hand and as I also came into adulthood, I sort of became more aware of my disability and sort of disability community.

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That exists, I don't think I ever identified that.

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Uh, identify with a disability, as as a kid, mostly as I became an adult.

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So what I tend to do is I do some advocacy predominantly in arts and entertainment for performers and other artists with disabilities and and also kind of making sure disability.

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Is part of that broad scope of diversity.

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So as we talk about diversity, inclusion, equity, accessibility, I'd like to have that accessibility in there as well, because I do feel like.

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We need to to sort of make sure that table is pretty big.

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When we're when.

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We're talking about those things and trying to use.

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Uhm, that idea to move forward.

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Wraps kind of wraps me up a little bit in a nutshell.

00:02:30 Charles Clark

Yeah no, that I think that's incredible the the fact that you know disabilities don't don't define us.

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Right it it empowers us to do even greater things, and that's that's what I see in your story.

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You know and.

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And so here's my question for you.

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How did you find yourself on on this path from from being a kid to to not seeing your disabilities to being aware of your disabilities but still using that to go out in the world and make a difference?

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I think as.

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A kid, you know, I I tell the story.

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My dad brought a baseball glove to the hospital when I was born and I'm old enough that I was born before ultrasounds so my parents had no idea that I would be born without my.

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Hand and my dad had this baseball glove because I was going to be a baseball player.

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You know?

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And and the doctor came out and said, you know, your son is healthy.

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But there's this glitch.

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He was born without his hand.

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I was very fortunate to have a father who who in that moment of crisis.

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He he found it somewhere within himself to say to the rest of my family that it kind of gathered around in the waiting room.

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My son is going to play baseball left-handed and that was his sort of UM, mantra. Was that this limitation?

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That was presented.

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He was not going to allow that to define.

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Me in that moment.

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Uh, that he had no idea how I was going to do it.

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He wasn't sure if that really was going to happen, but he he was not going to allow a limitation to define who I was and so that was, I think, just.

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I was, uh, I was very fortunate to have that sort of paradigm.

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And I'm not sure where where it came from, and my father too.

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You know, I think he, he, he, you know, was a veteran.

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You know he served in Vietnam.

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He had a lot of.

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A sense of.

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Of of survival, a sense of adapt, adapting and also a courageousness where he was an entrepreneur and he start his own business.

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So I think I think there was a.

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Paradigm of his.

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That a limitation and challenge doesn't necessarily have to define.

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You that you can move forward.

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And so it's very.

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Lucky to have.

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That with my dad and also my mother.

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Also really fought from for me to be included in in in schools.

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Growing up there was a really only one instance where a preschool said that I was too frightening to other kids because I wore a prosthetic hook and that they they didn't want me to be there.

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Uhm, but for the most part I was included in my community, but I I it going back, you know, to baseball thing, you know my parents sort of started to push.

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Soccer and some other sports because they're.

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Like you don't even have to use your hands.

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But there was something about the challenge of baseball that I enjoyed and I.

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I think I didn't think of my hand as a disability I wanted.

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I didn't have.

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That language, right? Well, I did not like it, talked about in terms of a deficit. I also I I remember identifying as a left-handed person. I was very proud of being left-handed. I never thought.

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To define myself as a person with one hand or a primitive disability.

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And so my whole goal, the whole goal of my life as a kid was to prove that I was capable and I could be better than someone with two hands, and that really played out on the.

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Athletic field and in sports.

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And so I really focused on that and I really focused.

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On trying to.

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Accomplish goals there and.

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And I did I, you know, I, I played, you know, varsity baseball and football in high school.

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And I.

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You know people you know would write stories you know about, like Oh my gosh, this person is overcoming all of these challenges, but I never thought of it as really overcoming something.

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It felt more.

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Like this is working so.

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Yeah, or right or this is just my goal, this is.

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I'm working to this.

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Yeah, the the thing I.

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I found I found really fascinating about.

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What your father said was like, hey, he's gonna play that fine it it doesn't like this.

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What happened is it's not going to be the end.

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We're still we're still going to do great things and I I think.

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That the fact that you.

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Had someone in your life like that?

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It empowered you to still live a life of excellence.

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I don't know if you you felt that way, but that's what I see when I when I look at your story and you know the things that you have accomplished.

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That most people would just go in hiding.

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You know that it's a OK.

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It's not in my cards.

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I've been dealt a hand that I didn't want to play.

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So let me just fold, and so maybe maybe my question for you would be this.

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You know, if you could, you could share anything with anyone who is looking to become a speaker right now.

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And maybe they have a disadvantage.

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Maybe everything is not where they wanted to.

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Be you know what?

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What would you tell them to to continue to move forward as you have?

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I you know, I think what?

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It's it's, I think it's it's.

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Finding that narrative within the.

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Story because all.

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Of us have.

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A story that we bond through right?

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And I have my lived experience and I think another speaker or aspiring speaker is.

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You're going to have your lived experience and I think it is a universal.

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Uh, truth that we all are going to face challenges and difficult circumstances and limitations are always going to come up right.

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And those limitations can be placed on us by others, and sometimes those limitations are going to be placed on ourselves.

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But the crux of you know, sort of my story.

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Is that those limitations do not have to peel away?

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Or our humanity in any way, like our humanity exists right here and right now.

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So whatever that challenge is, whatever the story is that you can tell is empowering to people because it's a recognizable journey, right?

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And so the key for I think.

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Emerging speakers is to say.

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This experience I have gone through, uhm?

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This this is.

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This is my journey of of redemption and empowerment, right?

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This is this is the way that I.

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Have continued to.

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Move forward.

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Because I think that's that's the key for.

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As a reminder.

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For all of us, all of us.

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Living right here and right now together.

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I think it's an important.

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Thing for us to always find different stories that we are able to connect to and also I think because.

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You're because whatever.

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That experience is you.

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You may see some of the disability or something born with one hand and say Oh my God, I I don't.

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Know how I would have?

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Tie my shoes.

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I don't know how I would have you know.

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Cooked an omelet.

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You know, if I had.

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One hand I don't know.

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How to do that you may have?

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A challenge that I I.

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Have no idea how you how.

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You move past that.

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Uhm so and it also gives me a sense of recognition of our shared humanity, right?

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Because I may not have had your experience, but the experience that you've had, I'm going to connect to through some of the challenges and things that I've I've had to go through.

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And so not only is it going to be empowering to me, it's also going to let me know a little bit more and have a little bit more sense of awareness of.

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Of what others may go through and recognize that we we are more connected than sometimes we allow ourselves to think we are and human beings, and I think that that's important.

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That's that's sort of.

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I think a.

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Charge of for those of us who who have these stories.

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And and have.

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The imagination and the the the will and the drive to share.

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Yeah, yeah, that's sort of, I think part of why it's so important because it is.

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It's we've we've been communicating and teaching ourselves as human beings for very long time.

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Whether you know from even before language we we taught each other by drawing pictures and we we taught each other of experiences that we had and then and now.

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That that's still something.

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I think that we we need as human beings is to continue to hear the stories of.

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Of our journeys.

00:11:45 Charles Clark

Yeah, and and not be afraid to tell that I I.

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Think like you know the biggest.

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Thing that I've that I've been learning is that.

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By uh sharing our experiences.

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It just lets us let the world know.

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Let the people in your community know that they're not alone.

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And if I can get through this, you can get through it to whatever it is that you're going through.

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And though the I'm I'm very encouraged by what you said and you know, hopefully the tribe they finds great value in in that you know there there might be something that you're not.

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Not great at but there's something that you overcame and that experience that's worth sharing that other people can connect with.

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You know, the biggest.

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Thing that I I hear.

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Event planners say the reason why they hired me is because it's real, is is relevant and I'm able to connect with the audience.

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So there's there's something that you have.

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You know your story.

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You know that it's not someone elses story, it's your story that allows people to to identify with you.

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You know, I wanted to ask you this.

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This next question, Dave, your message of spirit is excuse me, your message of spreading awareness about disability.

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Inclusiveness and bullying and learning through through play.

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What can you tell me about this particular niche within the industry, and how have you able?

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How have you been able to to use this to grow your business?

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I think I think in you know we.

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Talked a little offline about, you know I'm I'm still in a learning process with with with a lot of what?

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I'm doing, I think, where I find.

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Or have found the most success.

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UM is in education education.

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Uhm, whether that be schools, universities or education associations as well as disability.

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Uhm, organizations, associations etc.

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And some of that is is.

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You know has has.

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Worked well for me in terms of over the past several years.

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Having worked pretty consistently, also, you know in some in some capacity there's been some diversity awareness or disability awareness.

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Uh, within corporations that I've been able to sort of.

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Find a niche to speak to.

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But I still feel like that's.

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That's something I'm learning and I think this this.

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Is a part to the tribe here.

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That that that we're always kind of learning.

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You know how do we?

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Continue to tweak our message.

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How do we continue to find ways of?

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Uh, structuring the message that we have to to fit more into.

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Uhm, certain industries and I think I think.

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That for me.

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Because of the pandemic.

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You know, I certainly like most everyone sort of adapted and created a virtual platform.

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Uhm and.

00:14:48 Charles Clark

Something that didn't exist before, right, right, right, and and.

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But but the just the the sheer volume.

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Of work you know is is is not.

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What it was.

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And so.

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What was sort of my kind of pretty, pretty consistent.

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Uhm, sort of niche.

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Uh, it's kind of changed a little bit, so I think right now there's a lot of thought that I'm giving in terms of.

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How do I?

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How do I restructure kind?

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Of what I say so.

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I can really pinpoint some points of.

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Instead of it being more performative, or which is sort of where you know because of my acting background where it kind of comes from, how can it be more about unleashing potential?

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Uhm, for your employees.

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Yeah, yeah and.

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How how that affects your bottom line?

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And how come sometimes our perceptions of others can sometimes limit a limit, limited potential, and so it's beginning to recognize where someone unique voice someone unique experience can kind of help the the.

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The greater good of an organization or business so.

00:16:10 Charles Clark

Yeah, I I think you own, uh, something right there with with that part because.

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It from if we kind of look at the timeline of of the speaking industry, it was, I think, really in the 90s, like the Les Brown era.

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You know it was.

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He was the model of putting together a perfect message that it being flawless and and you know, kind of fast forwarding now.

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What people want more of is authenticity and related.

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Ability versus something that's scripted, you know, and so.

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I kind of teetered.

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You know between the lines of being scripted, but also having the ability to.

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Transcending and connect with the audience.

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I do think there's a level of preparation needed.

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In order to bring great value to organization or transcending from like that space of of.

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Memorization to or or head knowledge to heart knowledge, and that where that's where we can really create some synergy in the room versus having something that's alright.

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This is exactly what I'm gonna do every single time, and I'm not going to pivot from that.

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I mean that doesn't allow.

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People to connect with you.

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So I I love what you said right there when it when it comes to that just I think really being in the room and just learning how to connect with them to create transformation.

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Right and I I think I think.

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That's certainly, I think.

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That's a skill.

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That is dumb.

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Is something that that speakers?

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Especially new speakers, and I think you know I.

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Came to speaking.

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From from a theatrical background, so I think I think.

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There's a, there's a different.

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Thought process and sometimes and so I think it's it's some sometimes that's a skill that that I think.

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I was fortunate to come in with is a sense of, you know, I'm coming with the energy coming from here.

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Not necessarily always here and and and I think that is a little bit different than some.

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Sometimes what people will expect.

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I think for me it's just beginning.

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I need to get a little bit more here and.

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And kind of kind.

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Of merge the two a little bit and that's.

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You know that's just something that.

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I'm continuing to work on.

00:18:41 Charles Clark

Yeah, you know I, I think we all you know as speakers I I never ran into one speaker.

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That said, there's something that I don't want.

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Want to improve in in in work.

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Oh yeah.

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Going on, you know, and and so if I can think about my situation or the biggest thing that I would definitely want to improve in in in the next coming.

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I mean these next 30 days.

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Uh, is I think just slowing down a little more and and.

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And losing in loosening up.

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My my my script that I do have.

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I know what I'm going to talk about, but I just want to be able to just be present in that content a little more to really connect more with the audience.

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I I know that's my strong area, but I want to see how I can enhance that even even beyond that, because that can that.

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Can bring the price point up right there.

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You know being able to do that.

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So here's my other question for you.

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You know, if you could meet any speaker, who would that speaker be and what would?

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You want to ask him.

00:19:47 David Harrell

Oh man.

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That's a good question. Uhm?

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I feel like.

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I'm a I'm a big fan of UM.

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In an acquaintance of.

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Linda Larson and I think she kind of comes from a very similar experience in terms.

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Of you know, a theater background and then also.

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You know, I I just I do want to kind of have a nice conversation about.

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How she's merging the theatricality into the UM.

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Stribble sort of content in.

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In terms of business.

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Speak, I feel like I see that a little bit, but sometimes that's the.

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That's sort of that that that sort of magic.

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A connection that I that I feel like sometimes I'm I'm missing a little bit, so right now off the top of my head that's kind of that's kind of.

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Who I would, uh.

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Would want to just more have like a cup of coffee or dinner or something and.

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It's really kind of rack rack brains about.

00:21:10 Charles Clark

Yeah, yeah yeah, that's awesome.

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I always like to know you know what?

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Who would that speak before for somebody?

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And what question would they ask them?

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Yeah, yeah.

00:21:19 Charles Clark

You know, I don't know.

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If I could ask anybody.

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Anybody a question who would that that?

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You know?

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I I would want.

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To learn from a female perspective as well, I.

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I think.

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Lisa Nichols and Mel Robbins is someone that I would.

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Want to learn?

00:21:39 Charles Clark

More about I, I think Lisa Nichols, from the standpoint of storytelling and then Mel, Mel Robbins, from the standpoint of how she ties in more of the the neuroscience too.

00:21:53 Charles Clark

Provide value to her clients.

00:21:56 Charles Clark

What's her sweet spot?

00:21:58 Charles Clark

You know what is?

00:21:58 Charles Clark

What does she typically do to to research and and provide value in that?

00:22:03 Charles Clark

In that sense so.

00:22:04 Charles Clark

Yeah, those are people I would ask.

00:22:06 Charles Clark

So you know before.

00:22:06

We go.

00:22:07 Charles Clark

This is the end of the podcast.

00:22:09 Charles Clark

But before we go.

00:22:10 Charles Clark

Where can I try and find you?

00:22:13 David Harrell

Oh yeah, you can find me my website isdavidharrellspeaks.com and you can find me on Facebook are it's Instagram? Is David Harrell 3 #3 and on Twitter is David under score here. Oh, I think it's David.

00:22:33 David Harrell

David Harrell, actor speaker on Facebook.

00:22:36 Speaker 1

OK.

00:22:36 David Harrell

Uhm as well, but usually websites the best the best spot.

00:22:40

Solid weed.

00:22:41 David Harrell

A little about what I'm doing.

00:22:42 Charles Clark

Let's get it.

00:22:43 Charles Clark

Hey David, thanks so much for being on it.

00:22:45 Charles Clark

Joining the pace Speaking Geeks podcast and I'm excited to go behind the scenes right now.

00:22:49 Charles Clark

So here we go.

00:22:50 Charles Clark

Thanks man.

00:22:55 Charles Clark

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